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Sun Sep 25 2011, 07:37AM

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I have started a 2.1 L watercooled, I am down to splittong the case. I'll take some pictures today.

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How can you tell if the rod bolts have been changed from the streach to the non-streach bolts, the number on the ones that I have on this engine is KXA100, the none-streach ones that I have don't have any numbers on them. (they are the T-1 rod bolts)..

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Pictures of the mess.











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the way to tell the difference between the rod bolts is to have the cap off the stretch bolts look different I can not remember if the are all threaded or if there is no threads but thats the only way to tell.
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also the torque spec is slightly different between the two, not sure if this was mentioned

ajdenette wrote ...

the way to tell the difference between the rod bolts is to have the cap off the stretch bolts look different I can not remember if the are all threaded or if there is no threads but thats the only way to tell.





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Not knowing what I have I'll replace them anyway, I have a set of the good bolts here in the shop somewhere. Let the digging begin.

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Things are going normal with this build, got the parts in and the main bearings were the wrong ones, I just wish that the young people would learn to read.. Now I have to send it all back and the return postage don't seem to be coming through on the computer, will be calling again tomorrow.

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some other differences between a 1.9L and 2.1 are 2 oil pressure switches, the crank is stroked so it is different and the combustion cambers on the OE heads are different . the new replacement heads are the same for both 1.9L and 2.1l . the water connections are different also both as a longblock either will work in any vannie as long as you keep the water connections matched to that year vannie Later md

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Thanks Mark, it's the little things that count. Engine is still sitting in the garage waiting on a spot in the machine shop, should make it in next week.

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Had other engines get in the way, maybe next week for the cleaning.


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Put the engine in the shop for washing and making nice so I wont get to dirty putting it together, the main bearings should be here by the end of next week, we had a little trouble getting them, they sent a set of air cooled bearings to me, had to send them back. Should have some nice clean parts to take pictures of next week.

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I have got a batch of parts back from the machine shop, it turns out that the P/L's are 95's a 2.1.5L engine. I miked out the crankshaft, it is standard (one good thing), it's raining now so I can't paint any of the parts, so looks like I'll be resting another day.





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If things don't go right with this engine, I may end up with a 2.2L watercooled engine, I ordered rings for the pistons that I have, they are the second oversize in the big book (turns out to be a 2.1.5L), so to back myself up I ordered, also a set of 96 P/L's which will make the engine a 2.2L, I'll teach that engine to mess with me.

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Didn't have any parts to put on the engine, so I went to dinner with the auto parts store, they had a cook out for their customers. Where there is food involved I'm there. The older person cooking on the grill is Bill the Machinest..











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Well, I had a double header today, got the main bearings in along with the new rings and the new P/L's, I did a fit check on the old liners with the new rings (they are the 1'st oversize), with the new rings, I still have a end gap of .070 thousants(need the second oversize), a bit too much, so it looks like I can't get the rings to fit these P/L's so I'll be putting the new set of 96 P/L's into it, which will make it a 2.2L, should run good. This engine will be going into my red 91, that has the water leak on the 1/2 side (green seal), puffing antifreeze out the tailpipe.

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What I have been up to today, finished off the crankshaft, loaded the case, put it together, oil pump in place, P/L's installed, will get the heads on later or tomorrow. Dean's bringing his engine tonight, for me to overhaul, I don't think he got more than 1000 miles out of the overhaul he had done a few months ago.













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Hit the wrong button, here we go again more pictures.. Sparkling new 96 P/L's this will be a 2.2 L engine..

























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Got the whole engine together, and am dressing it, with much problems..

On this thermostat housing(from a syncro) what sensor goes in the empty hole??



On the pully, the syncro has a cover on it, the book said just use two screwdrivers and remove it, well the two breaker bars wont remove it, is it supposed to come off for a regular vanagon engine??

the sand sheild came off at the machine shop, after we heated it with the torch, smoked a little but slid right off.

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Got the sand sheld off, polished the hub, and installed the pully, looking good. More pictures to come.

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The syncro uses the same one wire threaded temp sensor for the gauge as the 1.9, I would have loved the sand shildfor one of my Syncro's, I am curious as to what is going on with the cross over pipe that is half hose?
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I would just assume that someone made a change from normal (fixing a rusted pipe), it does seem to work quite well, so I put it back on, it has a NAPA number on it, would you like the number. The sand shield was not any good after removal, it came off hard, you should still be able to get them from somewhere, they are a press fit.

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I need to take some more pictures of this engine, I am slowly dressing it , between engine builds. Today I cleaned up the plug wires, distrubtor cap and started on fitting the intake manifold to the engine.

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Couldn't stand the pressure, here are some pictures of it.













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ready to start on mine?
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Sure, just pull it out and I'll have a go at it..I just hope yours is standard, it's hard looking for odd parts. like mine it had 95 P/L's in it, and I can't find rings for the pistons, so I had to buy new ones, decided if I had to get new ones, I might as well go big, so I put 96's in it.

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